Sofie talks to writer and lecturer, Jes Baker about being Jes Baker for a living, her blog ‘The Militant Baker’, making her own Abercrombie and Fitch fake ads, body image and mental health, shame resilience, making the world a more compassionate place, a Mormon childhood, Things No One Will Tell Fat Girls, Landwhale, sharing your deepest darkest secrets, absolving emotional abuse, applauding the burnout culture, fatphobia around the world, animals in human clothing, going deep on wheat, replacing religion with activism and defence mechanisms.