Sofie and Melbourne-based fat activist, personal style fashion blogger and web developer Kobi Jae talk about the deeper meaning behind swapping clothes, downplaying fatness, the word 'plus-size', the co-opting of body positivity, penny-drop moments, dashed Musical Theatre dreams, Amanda Palmer and flying in the face of what's expected, ‘selfie’ culture, stomach tattoos, giving yourself room to be human and outliving your fears.

Trigger warning: Depression, childhood sexual abuse