Sofie and Melbourne-based comedian, actor and writer Celia Pacquola talk about labels, the #metoo movement, outing shitty comedians, the fear of stereotyping, skewed perceptions, pandering, projection and hate, putting whammies in your shows, obligation and people-pleasing, rooting your self-worth in work, escape plans, catastrophising, committing fraud by accident and the worst fate for a puzzle.